Williams Family History

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Lydia May Williams was born in 1898 in Gwytherin, North Wales, the fourth of eight children of Evan Williams and Ellen, née Clarke. The family lived at Dyffryn Aur, Tafarn y Fedw, near Llanrwst.

Lydia became a teacher. At the age of thirty she married Thomas Evans, but she put her age on her marriage certificate as 28, and her family always believed she had been born on 10 September 1900. She had seven children in ten years. The family farmed at Rhyd Ifan until they emigrated to New Zealand in 1952, where they farmed in Taranaki in the North Island.

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Ancestors of Lydia May Williams
   parents  grandparents  great-grandp'ts  grt-grt-grandp'ts g-g-g-g'pts g-g-g-g-g'pts
 Lydia May Williams  Evan Williams  Samuel Williams  John Williams      
       Mary Roberts Edward Roberts Robert Edwards  
          Mary Roberts  
        Catherine Hughes    
             
     Mary Roberts Evan Roberts John Roberts    
             
        Mary Williams William Thomas  
          Catherine Williams  
      Catherine Wynne William Wynne John Wynne  
          Eleanor Jones  
        Catherine Roberts    
             
   Ellen Clarke  Thomas Clarke        
     Mary        


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Evan Williams & Ellen Clarke   generation 5
Samuel Williams & Mary Roberts generation 6
John Williams & Mary Roberts generation 7
Edward Roberts & Catherine Hughes generation 8

Evan Roberts & Catherine Wynne generation 7
John Roberts & Mary Williams generation 8
William Thomas & Catherine Williams generation 9
William Wynne & Catherine Roberts generation 8
John Wynne & Eleanor Jones generation 9

Thomas & Mary Clarke generation 6





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* generation 5

Evan Williams

b. about 1867, Gwytherin, North Wales
Evan's parents were
Samuel and Mary Williams.
d. 10 Sep 1932, Llanrwst, aged 65
Ellen's parents were
Thomas and Mary Clarke.

Ellen Clarke

b. about 1872, Abergele, North Wales
d. 30 Apr 1912, Llanrwst, aged 40 (of childbirth?).

Evan and Ellen Williams had a family of eight children. They lived at Dyffryn Aur, Tafarn y Fedw, near Llanrwst, and are both buried at Capel Seion, Llanrwst.

Children of Evan and Ellen Williams, not listed in order of birth.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Williams John Cemlyn 1893 Gwytherin N. Wales 1974
Feb 15
. N. Wales
Williams Arthur Clarke 1895-96 Gwytherin N. Wales 1915
Aug 20
Gallipoli .
Williams Ida 1897 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Lydia May 1898
Sep 10
Gwytherin N. Wales 1975
Oct 24
New Plymouth NZ
Williams Alice Maud 1901
Feb
Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Ellen (Nell) . . N. Wales . . .
Williams Sam . . N. Wales 1974 . Zimbabwe
Williams Dora 1910? . N. Wales . . .

Johnny married Janet Evans, 7 children
Arthur died during WWI
Ida married Peter Williams, 2 children
Lydia married Thomas Evans, 7 children, moved to New Zealand
Alice married Maurice Salusbury, 4 children
Nell married Crawford Tomlinson, no children
Sam married Bet James (or Jones), 5 children, moved to Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe)
Dora married Stuart Hutton, 1 child

UK probate index transcripts

1932
Williams Evan of Hafod Bach Llanrwst Denbighshire died 10 September 1932
Administration London 28 November to John Cemlyn Williams farmer
Effects £594 11s 9d.

1912
Williams Ellen of Dyffryn Aur Llanrwst Denbighshire (wife of Evan Williams) died 30 April 1912
Administration St Asaph 31 May to the said Evan Williams farmer
Effects £350.

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* generation 6

Samuel Williams

b. 10 Apr 1829, Gwytherin, Denbigh, North Wales
parents:
John Williams and Mary Roberts.
d.
17 May 1902, North Wales
m. 18 Dec 1858, Llansannan

Mary Roberts

b. about 1837, Llansannan, Denbigh, North Wales
Mary's parents were
Evan Roberts and Catherine Wynne.
d.
17 Nov 1901.

Samuel and Mary lived at Llwyn Saint Farm, Gwytherin, a farm of 227 acres. They had a family of seven children. Samuel had an older brother, John, who didn't marry and lived at Llwyn Saint until his death.
Both Samuel and Mary are buried in Gwytherin, N. Wales.

Children of Samuel and Mary Williams.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Williams Mary Jane 1859 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Catherine 1861 Gwytherin N. Wales 1881 Gwytherin N. Wales
Williams John 1863 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Sarah 1865 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Robert Edward 1877 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Evan ?1867 Gwytherin N. Wales   1932
Sep 10
 Llanrwst N. Wales
Williams Ellen 1871-72 Gwytherin N. Wales .  .  .

Mary Jane married Hugh Owen, of Hendre Bach, Gwytherin. They farmed at Tyddyn Dafydd near Gwytherin, and were living there in 1902 when Samuel died.
Catherine died aged 20 in 1881. Earlier that year in the 1881 census she was farming 200 acres with her brother John at Ty Draw, Gwytherin.
John lived with his family at Ty Celyn.
Sarah married Mr Griffiths and lived at Bryn Clochydd.
Robert farmed at Llwyn Saint Farm, Gwytherin.
Evan married Ellen Clarke, 8 children.
Ellen married Mr Owens, and lived at Tyddyn Uchaf.

UK probate index transcript

1903
Williams, Samuel of Llwynsaint, Gwytherin, Denbighshire, farmer, died 17 May 1902. Probate St Asaph 5 January to Robert Williams, farmer. Effects £1938 13s.

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* generation 7

John Williams

b. about 1776-80, Gwytherin or Llanrwst, Denbigh, North Wales
d. 1866 3 Nov, Gwytherin, North Wales
m. 1810 8 Sep, Gwytherin, North Wales

Mary Roberts

bap. 1786 24 May , Ro Wen, Llangelynnin parish, Caernarvon, N. Wales.
Mary's parents were
Edward Roberts and Catherine Hughes.
d. 1873 June, Gwytherin.

John and Mary lived at Llwyn Saint Farm, Gwytherin. It was previously farmed by Mary's parents, who moved there between 1789 and 1810, from Llangelynnin in the Conway valley. At the time of his marriage, John was a farm labourer of Llanfair Dolhaiarn, and Mary lived at Llwyn Saint.

Children of John and Mary Williams.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Williams Jane 1811 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams Edward 1814 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Williams John abt 1824 Gwytherin N. Wales 1906 Gwytherin N. Wales
Williams Samuel 1829 Gwytherin N. Wales 1902 Gwytherin N. Wales

Jane married a Wynne, possibly William Wynne of Bryniau Pair, Gwytherin.
John didn't marry, and lived with Samuel's family at Llwyn Saint farm, Gwytherin.
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* generation 8

Edward Roberts

b. 1743 Nov 18, Gyffin, North Wales
parents: Robert Edwards and Mary Roberts, who were both buried at Llangelynnin on 25 Sep 1783.
d. 1813, 25 Sep (bu. date), Gwytherin, North Wales
m. 1771, 11 May?, Gyffin, North Wales

Catherine Hughes

b. about 1749?, N. Wales
d. 1828 Apr 26 (bu. date), Gwytherin, N. Wales.

Edward and Catherine were married in the parish of Gyffin, near Conwy. Their children's births show they lived in the parish of Llangelynnin, in Tan yr Allt (1772), Cae Iol (1775-77), Cae Fadog (1784-89). Sometime before 1810 they moved to Llwyn Saint Farm, Gwytherin. Edward was a farmer, although in 1777 his occupation was given as labourer.

Children of Edward and Catherine Roberts.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Roberts Anne 1772 Tan yr Allt, Llangelynnin N. Wales . . .
Roberts Robert 1775 Cae Iol, Llangelynnin N. Wales . . .
Roberts Grace 1777 Cae Iol, Llangelynnin N. Wales . . .
Roberts Thomas 1784 Cae Fadog, Llangelynnin N. Wales 1784 Llangelynnin N. Wales
Roberts Mary 1786 Llangelynnin N. Wales 1873   N. Wales
Roberts Eleanor 1789 Llangelynnin N. Wales      

Anne married Evan Davies, a stonecutter.
Grace married David Williams, then David Owens, and had at least one child.
Eleanor married John Jones and had at least two sons.
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* generation 7

Evan Roberts

bap. 1776 Dec 13, Llanfair Talhaiarn, North Wales
parents:
John Roberts and Mary Williams
d. 1864 Mar 20, Moel Wilym, Llansannan, North Wales
m. 1828 May 9, Llansannan, North Wales

Catherine Wynne

b. 1798 Mar 24, Gwytherin, N. Wales
d. 1883 Jan 5, Llansannan, N. Wales
parents:
William Wynne and Catherine Roberts

Evan Roberts was a farmer from Hendre Uchaf, Llansannan. Catherine Wynne was from Ty Newydd, Gwytherin. When Evan died aged 87 he was living at Moel Wilym, Llansannan.

Children of Evan and Catherine Roberts.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Roberts Sarah 1827-28 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Roberts John 1829 Llansannan N. Wales 1862 Llansannan N. Wales
Roberts Robert 1831 Llansannan N. Wales . . .
Roberts Catherine 1834 Llansannan N. Wales . . .
Roberts Mary 1836 Llansannan N. Wales .   .
Roberts Jane 1839 Llansannan N. Wales . . .

Sarah Roberts married John Jones, a blacksmith of Allt Ddu.
Robert Roberts married Anne Jones of Beidiog Isaf.
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* generation 8

John Roberts

b. about 1726-27, North Wales
d. 1782 May 15, Llanfair Talhaiarn, N. Wales
m. 1761 Sep 19, Llanefydd, North Wales

Mary Williams

bap. 1735 Feb 1, Henllan, N. Wales
d. 1799 Jul 27, Llanfair Talhaiarn, N. Wales
parents:
William Thomas and Catherine Williams of Fronhaul, Llanefydd

John and Mary farmed at Penaled, Llansannan until sometime between 1771 and 1774, then at Nant Cornwall, Llanfair Talhaiarn.

Children of John Roberts and Mary Williams.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Roberts William 1764 Llansannan N. Wales <1799 . .
Roberts Robert 1766 Llansannan N. Wales . . .
Roberts Anne 1769 Llansannan N. Wales . . .
Roberts John 1771 Llansannan N. Wales 1845 Llanfair Talhaiarn N. Wales
Roberts Thomas 1774 Llanfair Talhaiarn N. Wales 1807   .
Roberts Edwert . . . 1775 Llanfair Talhaiarn N. Wales
Roberts Evan 1776 Llanfair Talhaiarn N. Wales 1864 Llansannan N. Wales
Roberts David 1779 Llanfair Talhaiarn N. Wales      

Robert Roberts lived at Pentre Beidiog.
Anne Roberts married William Williams of Pengwern, Llansannan.
John Roberts farmed at Nant y Cornwal, Llansannan.
Thomas Roberts farmed at Plas yng Gornel, Llansannan.
David Roberts was a sailor.

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* generation 9

William Thomas

b. about 1699-1700, North Wales
d. 1785, May 7, Llanefydd, N. Wales, aged 85
m. 1728 Jun 29, Llansannan, North Wales
m2. Jane Roberts of Llanefydd, on 1778 May 25.

Catherine Williams

b. about 1697-98, N. Wales
d. 1769 Jan 17, Llanefydd, aged 71

William and Catherine were from Fronhaul, Llanefydd. Their farm was in the township of Penporchell.

Children of William Thomas and Catherine Williams.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Williams Margaret 1731 Llanefydd N. Wales . . .
Williams Mary 1735 Henllan N. Wales 1799 . N. Wales
Williams Thomas 1738 Henllan N. Wales 1803 . N. Wales
Williams Robert 1741 Henllan N. Wales 1821 . N. Wales

The children's surnames are given as 'Williams' , as that is how they are named in William Thomas' will, using the old style of naming.
Margaret married William Roberts and had 4 daughters, Sarah (b. 1756, m. John Jones of Cwm), Elizabeth (1767 - 1774), Margaret, b. 1773, m. 1792 John Foulkes), Mary (m. John Jones of Foel, Flintshire).
Robert married Anne Williams and had at least 3 children.

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* generation 8

William Wynne

bap. 1756 Dec 25, Gwytherin, North Wales
parents:
John Wynne and Eleanor Jones
d. 1820 Jun 27, Gwytherin, North Wales
m. 1784 Sep 15, Llansannan, North Wales

Catherine Roberts

b. 1767 Mar 24, Gwytherin, N. Wales
d. 1835 Jun 26, Gwytherin, N. Wales.

William and Catherine farmed at Ty Newydd, Gwytherin.

Children of William and Catherine Wynne.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Wynne Robert 1785 Gwytherin N. Wales 1861 Gwytherin N. Wales
Wynne John 1787 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Wynne William 1789 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Wynne Elinor 1791 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Wynne Evan 1793 Gwytherin N. Wales .   .
Wynne Jane 1795 Gwytherin N. Wales 1806 Gwytherin N. Wales
Wynne Catherine 1798 Gwytherin N. Wales 1883 Llansannan N. Wales
Wynne Margaret 1801 Gwytherin N. Wales      
Wynne Elizabeth 1803 Gwytherin N. Wales      
Wynne Sarah 1806 Gwytherin N. Wales      
Wynne David 1808 Gwytherin N. Wales 1878    
Wynne Jane 1812 Gwytherin N. Wales      

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* generation 9

John Wynne

d. 1778 Jul 4, N. Wales
m. 1776 Jan 9, Gwytherin, North Wales

Eleanor Jones

Children of John and Eleanor (Elin) Wynne.
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Wynne William 1756 Gwytherin N. Wales 1820 Gwytherin N. Wales
Wynne Jane 1759 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Wynne John 1763 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .
Wynne Robert 1765 Gwytherin N. Wales . . .

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* generation 6

Thomas Clarke

b. 1840 - 47, Durham
d.
8 Feb 1897, Gwytherin, North Wales, aged 50

Mary

b. about 1846, Llanrwst, Denbigh, North Wales
d.
d. 17 Jul 1898, Glan Conway, North Wales

A family story says that Thomas and Mary were from Argyle in Scotland, and went to Wales to be gamekeepers at the Hafod Unos Estate, at Llangernyw, then became hotel keepers at the Lion Inn in Gwytherin. I haven't been able to confirm most of this - perhaps Thomas's parents came from Argyle, and he went to Wales as a gamekeeper, and met Mary there?

Thomas and Mary lived at Tafarn Newydd (New Pub), which is now called the Holland Arms Pub, and that is where they were at the time of their deaths.

Thomas and Mary are buried at Trofarth Church, and their gravestone is in English.

Children of Thomas and Mary Clarke, not listed in order of birth.
 
surname given names b. date b. place b. country d. date d. place d. country
Clarke Ellen 1871 Abergele N. Wales 1912
Apr 30
Llanrwst N. Wales
Clarke Hugh 1873 Wrexham N. Wales >1898 . .
Clarke Catherine 1876 Cwm, Flint N. Wales . . .
Clarke Robert 1877-78 Cwm, Flint N. Wales  .  .  .
Clarke Deborah 1879 Cwm, Flint N. Wales  .  .  .
Clarke Annie 1882 Flint N. Wales      
Clarke Thomas 1884 Llansantffraid, Den N. Wales      
Clarke Mary Alice 1885 Llansantffraid, Den N. Wales      
Clarke Dora 1887 Llansantffraid, Den N. Wales      
Clarke Lea Florence 1889 Llansantffraid, Den N. Wales 1901    

UK probate index transcripts

ClarkeThomas of Dafarn Newydd Llansantffraid Glan Conway Denbighshire innkeeper died 8 February at Gwytherin Denbighshire
Probate St Asaph 27 March to Mary Clarke widow
Effects £220 11s 10d.

Clarke Mary of Dafarn Newydd Llansantffraid Glan Conway Denbighshire widow died 17 July 1898
Administration St Asaph 8 September to Hugh Clarke farmer
Effects £1001 5s 7d.

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I am very grateful to all who have helped get me this far, particularly Alma Lawrence, Eleri Davies, Ieuan Jones, Maureen Hamilton, Berwyn Kerfoot, Lee Wetton, and Bryn Roberts.

Any additions or corrections will be very much appreciated.

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